Any One But Obama. Okay, Then What?

Why am I having such a hard time going along with the “Any One but Obama” meme, which really means any Republican over Obama? Would I wish another four years of Obama on America? Of course not. In the end, I might take two Dramamine and vote for the lessor of two evils. I say “might” because I’m still not sure. I’m tired of voting for the lessor of two evils. To me, the Republicans and the Democrats are two sides of the same coin.

I was fired up when the Tea Party movement hit the scene. I was hopeful they might make some real change in the GOP. That hope is all but gone now. Even so-called conservatives are saying that America has changed; that the idea of a small central government bound by enumerated powers is too right-wing. I’m hearing that people like me are not being pragmatic.

Pragmatic? Hmmm… What do they mean that people like me need to  be more pragmatic? I thought about this question for much of the day, yesterday. I came to the conclusion  that what these people mean, whether they know it or not, is that America is too far down the road followed by Greece; that Americans will not accept the changes that are needed any more than the Greeks have. And, more than that; the people pushing pragmatism are saying that Americans will not or can not accept that America is heading for bankruptcy along with the rest of the Western nations. The sad thing is, after hours of pondering this question, I had no choice but to agree with the pragmatist. We Americans are living in denial.

This brings me to the title of today’s post. If our “any one but Obama” republican wins in November, then what? To be sure, our new heroes in Washington will be able to do many things that should help our economy to grow a little faster and produce more jobs. What they won’t be able to do for reasons of pragmatism is stop the deficit spending or reduce the size and cost of government.  Our national debt will continue to grow; all be it at a somewhat slower rate. More importantly, our cost to service that debt will continue to grow. Although Americans will be under the illusion that everything is getting better, the truth is  that the  debt crisis the world is in is not going to go away. What can’t continue, won’t.

How many Americans know that our government spends on social programs the equivalent of every cent their tax revenue; over two trillion dollars? That means that all the rest of the cost of government, including for our national defense and the interest on our debt, must be paid for by either borrowing money through the sale of bonds or by the Fed creating dollars out of thin air  to buy a large percentage of our bonds themselves. So, in meeting our obligations we are adding to our mountain of debt, debasing the dollar, and increasing our cost to service our debt.

The situation is even worse in Europe and Japan. The world’s debt bubble will burst one of these days and plunge us all into an economic depression. I truly believe what I just wrote. I also belive the pragmatist. Americans will not accept the changes that are needed any more than the Greeks are today. If the Republicans gain control of our government and try to implement the needed changes, they will be voted out of office at the first opportunity.

So, what are we, the believers that economic collapse is inevitable, to do? Should we fold up our tents and do what we can to protect our loved ones and wait for the inevitable to happen?  Well, I for one will not fold up my tent. I will continue doing what I have been doiing; sounding the alarm that the sky is falling.

I started this blog wanting to add my voice to those who hoped to stop the progressive Democrats and big government Republicans from leading us over the cliff. Now, I have reluctantly accepted that we are going over the cliff and there is no “pragmatic” way to stop it.

As i see it, the battle that we conservatives and libertarians must join in earnest is the battle for what will happen after the economic collapse. You can be sure that the progressives will do everything possible to convince the people that the crash was the fault of free market capitalism and those crazy right-wing conservatives.

The thread of hope that I am hanging on to now is that if we keep sounding the alarm, maybe when the crash comes a bell will go off in the collective heads of Americans. Just maybe they will realize that we who have claimed the sky was falling were right. Maybe they will finally realize that the big government policies of both the Democrats and Republicans is  what brought our country to ruin. just maybe they will turn their backs on the progressives and their promises of utopia and let us rebuild America in the vision of our founders.

Well, that’s what I’m thinking. What are your thoughts?

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28 thoughts on “Any One But Obama. Okay, Then What?

  1. While nationally the Tea Party does not appear to be making any impact- how could it- locally in my neck of the woods, they are very active. Perhaps the take back will be local at first. Though I have to say, it is looking gloomy at best. This should have been a walk in the park. After I saw Jay Carney spin the Keystone Pipeline debacle as the GOPers fault, I wonder if anyone is home.

  2. Several thoughts…

    1 – Though Discomforting, I’m on the “Anybody by Obama” Bandwagon
    I’m so desperate and profoundly concerned about Obama’s destructive big government philosophy that a complete unknown appears a better alternative to the certainty that comes with Obama.

    2 – Pragmatism
    Pragmatic is lower taxes, less government and less government intrusion on individual liberties. Here is what is NOT pragmatic… bigger, more intrusive, inefficient and wasteful government spending that drains economic growth resources and spends those resources on programs we can no longer afford without making big changes now. The brick wall is in our face.

    3 – The Chicken Little Effect
    All is not lost. Though things aren’t looking good, it is not inevitable that world-wide recession and/or depression is unavoidable. We are experiencing some natural private-sector recovery, not government induced recovery. The American economy is moving upward again… albeit slowly. The private sector has the resources available right now to recover the economy… big, intrusive government is the only impediment.

    4 – The Fed and Printing Money
    The idea of printing money is not as odious as some fear. The truth is that the amount of money in a country needs to reflect the amount of wealth in a country. Wealth is ever growing so necessarily needs a larger money supply as new wealth is created. Returning to a gold standard is just a plain, dumb idea. Gold is merely a shiny metal. Its a commodity. Tying the wealth of a nation to underground gold discoveries in places like South Africa doesn’t make any economic sense at all. We need The Fed to stabilize the economy and promote economic growth. That is its dual mandate.

    5 – $454 Billion
    That is how much was paid in interest on the national debt in 2011. That is up from $414 billion in 2010. A lot of public good and economic stimulus could have been financed with $454 billion. That amount is 63.7% of non-war defense spending in 2011 and more than half the cost of the entire massive ARRA “stimulus” package which was spread over several years. So far in fiscal year 2012 we’ve already spent $169 billion on national debt interest. Since the first of the year debt has been growing right at $4 billion per day. If we do not get that under control in the next few years it will be our economic Armageddon.

      1. A meaningful related debt issue involves the current cost of borrowing… its at historic lows around 2%.

        Right now is the perfect time for the U.S. to borrow as much as it possibly can.

        We have Europe’s debt crisis to thank. It has made the dollar a global investment safe haven until European economic turmoil subsides. The longer that lasts, the better it is for us.

        Just like a home owner who refinances to get a lower mortgage interest rate, if the U.S. could somehow refinance the entire national debt right now at those low treasury security yields we’d be a LONG way toward solving our long-term debt problems.

        Its to be note that “debt held by the public” is where all of this year’s debt growth has been. “Intragovernmental holdings” debt has actually decreased this year.

        If Treasury yields were high that would be the worst possible news. But since government borrowing costs are probably the lowest we’ll see in our lifetimes it is the best possible news.

        That is a weird paradox, isn’t it? lol!!!

  3. First… Am I the pragmatist?

    I agree with Bunkerville… the change is so fundamental that is has to be local. By that I mean not only in our cities, counties, and states, but in sending libertarian/conservatives to the House (the most local of our national representation) and to the Senate. My argument continues to be that the tea-party types in the Congress can move a more moderate president to the right.

    I don’t remember if I wrote it here, or on another blog (I’m pretty sure it wasn’t on my own blog), but the thing that makes me find Romney as a tolerable (again, he’s not my first choice) option as president is this: He will sign conservative legislation, including the repeal of Obamacare. If he suggests legislation or a budget that is too moderate, a more conservative House and Senate (which actually produce the product for him to sign) can go farther than he does. In the meantime, the guy knows how to fix a dysfunctional company… or, in this case, a dysfunctional, overbearing, costly executive branch bureaucracy. Wouldn’t it be great to have someone who understands how businesses work in charge of bringing the regulatory agencies to heel? What do you do when you save a dying business? You clear the deadwood, stop doing things that are harmful (policies and procedures that are too costly), and start doing the things that are helpful. You change the incentives. If Romney just devoted his attention to that bureaucratic change, and signed the bills a conservative Congress sent to him, he’d be fine. Maybe extremely successful.

    The other thing that will take time (though I wish we could do it overnight) is teaching people to understand economics. What percentage of the population do you think understands why government debt is bad and what happened to Greece? Hell, people don’t understand why free market capitalism works, even though they are living in the richest country in the world as a result of the fact that it does work. They need to be taught why statist control is harmful, not only to personal liberty but economically.

    We all wish it could happen over night. But that’s just as utopian as Democrat dreams of a land where there is such a thing as a free lunch and government interference actually makes the economy stronger. Turning this economy around significantly (not even necessarily profoundly)–which isn’t that hard, really, given that freeing up energy production, rewarding investment, eliminating uncertainty, and cutting red tape would go a long way to doing it–will be such a contrast with the Obama years that it will help in the education process. Plus, we have not just one miserable statist failure (Obamaism) to point to in contrast, but also states like California and Illinois, and a European Union that is a great example of the road statists go down… inevitably.

    As people understand increasingly that what we’re doing is working, the education process about why it’s working, and why we need to go further will become easier. We also have some good, strong voices: Paul Ryan, Marco Rubio, Rand Paul, Bobby Jindal, etc. who seem to have the right message and an ability to communicate it effectively.

    I’m hopeful. I’m disappointed that we probably can’t make the change over night, between Jan 20th, 2013 and the morning of the 21st. But we can take a big step in the right direction just by getting Obama the hell out of Washington.

  4. By the way, Jim, my book “The Tamarack Conspiracy” is now available digitally at Amazon, Barnes and Noble, and Smashwords. The price is $3.99… Under four bucks! I will GIVE it (FREE)* to any of your readers who promise to go to Amazon and review it–and will simply sing the praises and give virtual hugs to anyone who also reviews it on their blog.

    It’s the story of what could happen if statism was to continue and how one small group fights against it before the general misery it causes results in the nation as a whole waking up. Seems appropriate for the times. I feel like a sage, given I wrote it just as Obama was taking office.

    *I can e-mail the PDF, or give a coupon for download of PDF or most other e-reader formats from Smashwords.

  5. I think the majority of Americans have fundamentally flawed perception of reality, thinking that changing leadership will change anything. Our country underwent a financial coup 100 years ago. Those patriotic Americans who warned against it: Charles Lindbergh, whose grandson was kidnapped, Louis McFadden, who died of a sudden illness after two attempts on his life, – all tried to warn us. They foretold the nightmare future we live in today. However if you were to mention the names of these men even five years ago, people would have called you crazy, assuming they even recognized their names.

    So here we are, several undeclared wars later, and the same con game of fiat fake monopoly money is nearing the end of its lifespan. What’s my point? It’s didn’t start with Obama, whose family is bankster, making him a bankster baby, and it won’t do diddly getting someone else in there who is just going to read the banker’s prompter.

    The standard talking point is that conservatives don’t attack corporations, the underlying assumption that everything is on the level with our large multi-nationals. Rush Limbaugh demagogues the term eeevilll corporations, to distract from the fact that an entity not proscribed in our Constitution has taken over. Similarly, liberals are taught that the government will “fix” everything, and not to consider that their precious government is symbiotically tied to the corporations they denounce.

  6. I’m very pessimistic. Real change will never happen. We ARE too far down the road. Greece-style riots in the streets of every city in America are inevitable. And when that happens, it doesn’t matter which party is in power, the constitution will be suspended to deal with the emergency. And then our Republic will be gone. At the present it is only doomed but still limping along.

  7. Jim, I couldn’t agree with you more. I am tired of voting for the lesser of two evils and I am not sure I will this time around. I agree with you about the collapse, I fear it is too late to stop it and I don’t think any Republican candidate will do what is needed to stop it if they were elected. So the time may come to stand on principle and vote third party, if that means Obama gets reelected so be it. We can then only hope the right people gain power from the ruins and lead us back to glory.

      1. Isn’t what Steve said a lot like what people said about McCain? People didn’t want to vote for a moderate Republican, or a RINO… So, we got Obama and four years of trillion plus dollar deficits, increased regulation, Obamacare, Solyndra (and a multitude of others), Sonya Sotomayor on the Supreme Court, no budget for three years, a complete pull-out in Iraq, an enemy-friendly timeline in Afghanistan, didn’t help the Iranian protestors, haven’t stopped Iran’s nuclear program… (by the way, is Hillary Clinton going to go down as the worst Sec. State ever, or just the most invisible one?)

        See what I’m saying? It’s one thing to be heading toward a cliff at a moderate pace, it’s another to step on the gas. One way you have time to turn, the other you don’t.

        I’m currently reading the Autobiography of Benjamin Franklin. I just read a passage where Ben had an idea of how to change something that was corrupt. He said, “…though the plan was not immediately carried into execution, yet, by preparing the minds of people for the change, it paved the way for the law obtained a few years after…”

        The “progressives,” the “statists” prepared the American mind for a change that culminated in the election of Barack Obama. We’ve now seen that the ideas (and the fiscal and economic policies) of the progressives are bankrupt. We have to prepare the minds of the people for the change (back) to founding principles and economic reality. Those of us who already understand can’t sit back and say, “We don’t have the people to get it done now, so screw it.” We have to be out in front “preparing the minds”. As it begins to turn, people will start to see and their minds will open more. We’re not going to get everything we want immediately. It’s like turning an aircraft carrier, not steering a jet ski.

  8. Little miss cheerful here for a moment, as unlikely as that may seem. #1. I think Bunker is right. The Tea Party movement went home from the 2010 elections and started mobilizing locally. And for myself, I have found there is a lot to do locally to throw out the “progressives.” Even so, Tea Parties are still active on the national scene. There just haven’t been huge rallies …plus the media either ridicules them / us or ignores us altogether, so you aren’t hearing as much about them / us. I think one of the first two debates was put on by the Tea Party. The debate I watched tonight left me feeling as if 3 of the 4 candidates could do what we need in a President. Romney was the only one I thought would not. If Romney gets the nomination, then yes, we are voting for the lesser of two evils. If any of the other three get the nomination, we are light years ahead of where we have been. (I’ll even concede to our libertarian friends here that I’d take Paul over Romney…how’s that! Though I am still in the Gingrich camp.)

    On the Tea Party…it is made up mostly of people who don’t like government and want it to go away. Not to mention the group is the hard working tax paying type (generally) who find it difficult to run their lives and run for office and / or babysit government at the same time. I’m finding it nearly full time unpaid work to do what I am doing locally and with the statewide I Caucus and the statewide anti-Agenda 21 groups. Those who are making a living full time cannot be expected to do this…but they are trying. Whether or not any of this gets us where we need to go is anyone’s guess at this point. BUT, Jim, this progressive freight train, as Republican Mother points out, has been rolling for 100 yrs. We are not going to turn this around on a dime. It is going to take some time….and that is…if Obama and the progressives don’t collapse the entire system first. It took them generations to ruin us…it is likely to take a generation or two to get back.

    So that’s my rare moment of glimmering hope for tonight. Hang on ..we are not giving up.

  9. **Even so-called conservatives are saying that America has changed; that the idea of a small central government bound by enumerated powers is too right-wing.*

    Well Jim first off they’re not really conservative or they have very little understanding of conservatism. I talk to people every day and they are are extremely frustrated with both political parties. The Republicans blew it in 2011 in my opinion. They had a great opportunity to stand on principle and failed. Boehner and company co-opted these freshmen Republicans and got them to play the Washington game. It has weakened the party. They continued to play the same spending games that got us into this mess. I have been reading John Locke as of late and it has caused me to reflect a bit and look at these so called conservatives. His influence on our Founders can be found in both the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. Until conservatives get back to the basic and embrace the concept of natural rights again the Republicans will continue to drift towards the left until we eventually have no choice.

  10. There are more issues with Obama than economic ones. I’m not excited about the Republican candidates, but I think all of them would be better on issues like border-and internal security, installing radical Islam in countries in the Middle East, racial divisiveness-free speech even. There are many other issues that would justify “anybody but Obama.”

  11. Whichever way you look at it, there will be pain, there has to be, no one can live on borrowed money for so long and expect not to hurt a bit. My only hope is that if a republican is voted in, they can at least lessen the pain. If it’s obama for another 4 years, you can be sure the problem will only get worse and so will the painful remedy.

  12. “I was fired up when the Tea Party movement hit the scene. I was hopeful they might make some real change in the GOP. That hope is all but gone now.”

    What are my thoughts? Well, here’s what an old guy that saw some dark times said, while he spent the better part 8 years getting his military butt kicked:

    “Perserverence and spirit have done wonders in all ages.”

    Perservere is all we can do. I’m totally in agreement with Pat about how long it will really take to change the political landscape the way we need. It’s a cultural change at the root, and will take more than one generation. And yes, I know we don’t necessarily have that much time before our economy hits on Really Bad Times. So, we hope for the best, but prepare for the worst.

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