I suppose this story I found at Slate.com via Questions and Observations shouldn’t shock me, but it does. Even though we know that the Left and statist on the Right have little regard for our constitution and the Bill of Rights, I still find it alarming that someone would publicly advocate putting restrictions on our “freedom of speech”. Yet that is exactly what Slate columnist, Eric Posner has done. He bemoans the defense of our First Amendment by President Obama in his recent address before the United Nations General Assembly.
President Obama said so himself in a speech at the United Nations today, which included both a strong defense of the First Amendment and (“in the alternative,” as lawyers say) and a plea that the United States is helpless anyway when it comes to controlling information. In a world linked by YouTube, Twitter, and Facebook, countless videos attacking people’s religions, produced by provocateurs, rabble-rousers, and lunatics, will spread to every corner of the world, as fast as the Internet can blast them, and beyond the power of governments to stop them. Muslims need to grow a thick skin, the thinking goes, as believers in the West have done over the centuries. Perhaps they will even learn what it means to live in a free society, and adopt something like the First Amendment in their own countries.
Then Posner goes on to suggest that there is an alternative.
But there is another possible response. This is that Americans need to learn that the rest of the world—and not just Muslims—see no sense in the First Amendment. Even other Western nations take a more circumspect position on freedom of expression than we do, realizing that often free speech must yield to other values and the need for order. Our own history suggests that they might have a point.
Despite its 18th-century constitutional provenance, the First Amendment did not play a significant role in U.S. law until the second half of the 20th century. The First Amendment did not protect anarchists, socialists, Communists, pacifists, and various other dissenters when the U.S. government cracked down on them, as it regularly did during times of war and stress.
This diatribe was, of course precipitated by the recent Muslim attacks on our embassies in Egypt and Libya resulting in the deaths of four Embassy officials including our Ambassador to Libya. Despite the evidence that this was really a terrorist attack, most like by elements of al Qaeda, this moron as well as many more want the world to believe that these rioting savages were doing so because someone from America dared to impune their prophet. Mr. Posner purposely ignores that these attacks planned in detail. The leaders behind these attacks planned them to coincide with eleventh anniversary of the 2001 9/11 attacks by terrorist here in America that cost around three thousand lives.. These same leaders spent time search the media and the internet looking for something they could use as an excuse to rally their ignorant followers. They most likely found several possibilities and in the end chose this YouTube video as their tool.
None of that is important to people like Mr. Posner. What people like him want is to codify into law their principles of political correctness. They will only be happy when it becomes a criminal offense to offend people of color or some women or Islamic radicals. In the case of Islamist, offending them might logically lead to charges of inciting a riot in some nowhere rat infested desert or maybe even an accessory to murder.
In my opinion, Posner and people like him do not deserve to call themselves Americans. They have zero appreciation for the fact that our country was built on the principle of maximizing our liberties, our freedoms, and that includes the freedom of speech. Americans should never be told they should lower their standards in order to conform with the views of the rest of the world.
Well, now you know what I’m thinking. What are your thoughts?
What people like him want is to codify into law their principles of political correctness. They will only be happy when it becomes a criminal offense to offend people of color or some women or Islamic radicals.
Yes! Or perhaps to criticize a president and the government. Anyone remember the Aliens and Sedition Act?
Funny how they like to curb freedom of speech except whe they are out of power.
Whatever happened to the good old days when the left championed the first amendment? It’s amazing watching the left morph into fascism.
Not your father’s Democrats, are they?
So because the rest of the world doesn’t enjoy the same right to free speech as we do we are the ones who are supposed to give up some of our rights? Redistributing our rights so we can all be equal, is that what it will come down to? We are the ones who were attack in Libya, we were the victims yet these people want to portray those who attacked us as the real victims.
“… we were the victims yet these people want to portray those who attacked us as the real victims.”
If that is not an Alinsky tactic, it should be. Whatever happened to the House Committee on UnAmerican Activities? Where are you Joe McCarthy?
It certainly seems as if it is an Alinski tactic. Make the people afraid to voice their opinion.
figured out how to comment! Had to expand comment section. We are on the same page indeed. Where is the ACLU??
WordPress must be playing games.
Whhy isn’t this the biggest news story? What is wrong with our fellow Americans?
The older I get, the less I keep my mouth shut! Just a fact! Not going to happen. I will be damned if I will let some Muslim country tell me what I can and can not say in my own country. I would make a very bad Muslim wife. Of course then again, I am armed, maybe we should suggest those ladies do the same, then I bet they would not be beaten as often. I hope this gets shut down quickly. However, I can pretty well figure that Obama will placate them with something to the effect of, “wait til I get re-elected, I will be more able to get things pushed thru then”, sound familiar?
Sadly, it sounds all too familiar. I don’t understand why more Amerixans aren’t reacting like you and I and a few others?
There could be a number of reasons. Maybe they have always voted Democratic like parents, etc. Maybe they are not paying attention and expect things to take care of themselves, but IF they agree with what is going on, there is the BIG problem we have. How they could identify with Obama and be called Americans is a new concept to me. He wants to limit our rights, what is so hard to understand about that? Do they think that Democrats and Republicans will have 2 different set of rules at that point? Are they that stupid? I wonder.
They are so stupid they have gotten drunkon the Kool-Aid and belive that their progressive leaders really can build a better America than the Founders did. That is STUPID!
I’m thinking that I hope Posner doesn’t get paid for writing such rubbish. If he does, his employers are bigger fools than he is.
It’s Slate. What can we expect?
KNOCK KNOCK! Hello? IS this AMERICA anymore? HOly cow.
Yeah. Disheartening, isn’t it?
It is classic leftist drivel: conservative principles have no intrinsic value because they don’t represent the attitudes of most other people. The lie is easily discernible, but the logic escapes me. We should be prepared to relinquish our inalienable rights simply because leftists and Moslem extremists deny that such rights actually exist?
Surely, the sacrifices made by Americans on behalf of others throughout the world, including Muslims, must have some meaning. After all, we do remember the citizens proudly displaying their purple-inked fingers. The answer is yes, such things do matter to the American conservative right —but no, such things meaning nothing at all to the communist left. Even their identifier is a lie; they are not progressive at all. They are not here to build upon that which our ancestors created, or those that our grandfathers died to protect. No, they are here to destroy it all —and the sooner, the better.
Excellent anaysis, Mustang. the Left is only interested in completing the final stage our “fundemental transformatiom”.
Lord, have mercy!
It’s been only a few decades ago that the Left was INSISTING upon all sorts of objectionable freedom of speech: the f-bomb comes to mind.
It is not your father’s Democratic Party, is it?
It’s really very simple. If we sit back and allow them to restrict our freedom of speech, we will be lost as a country. Words such as the ones you and I type every day would be banned, no doubt. After all, we do raise plenty of questions about what is going on around us. It’s disturbing to think many of our fellow Americans would be willing to concede their freedom of speech, just because they are told it is the right thing to do.
Ironically there was a time when the anti-war protesting leftest were very big on the freedom of speech. However, they don’t seem to like it when someone else uses their right of free speech.
There was a time not too long ago when I thought that, while I didn’t share the same views as “liberals,” they still held certain actual principles–that they were principled in their own way. In other words, I thought they meant it when they trumpeted “freedom of speech” and “end to war,” among other things.
The last 4 years sure have disspelled this erroneous notion. I mean, where are all the war protestors, and all the media moaning about casualities in Afghanistan? And where are all those defenders of flag burning as free speech?
Leftists believe in nothing more than “the ends justifies the means.” They believe in nothing but the acquisition of power by any means necessary.
best to you
Lin
The only flag burning they support is OUR flag in foreign countries by foreigners. How progressive they have become. Yet we can’t fly an American flag here if it offends a neighbor.
You are exactly right, Lin. Their agenda is everything and they will do anything it takes to move that agenda FORWARD!