In the midst of the geopolitical gamesmanship over the Ukraine, does anyone care what the people of Ukraine want?

The question raised in the title of today’s post is a fair to ask, because one thing we know for sure is the western media is not reporting the truth of what has been happening in the Ukraine. From the western propaganda machines, all we get is “good” west and “bad” Russia. It has only been in the alternative news sources (blogs) that anything resembling the truth has been reported. One of the best sources has been my good friend and Guest Saturday collaborator, Norma Brown, of the  Ooobie on Everything blog. Norma is a fluent in Russian and a former Foreign Service Officer of the U.S. State Department and she lived for several years in Moscow. In a Guest Saturday post back in April, she wrote:

NATO has vastly increased the security of its original founding members over the past twenty years by eating away at Russia’s safety zone. It did so in violation of an agreement between western heads of state and high officials with their counterparts in the USSR that NATO would not expand eastward. And in exchange for that security guarantee, the USSR withdrew 400,000 troops from eastern Europe and made possible German reunification and continued NATO membership. I read today that the Supreme Court has previously ruled that an agreement (such as that with Gorbachev) made between officials authorized to make such agreements has legal standing as a treaty, even if oral and thus not ratified by the Senate. So from the start of Russia’s rebirth as a non-communist nation, it has seen the West renege on commitments vital to Russian interests.

NATO has gone as far as it can go without provoking a predictably horrible ending. The US deliberately flaunted its support for the mob in Kiev that ousted a legal government, immediately adopted the self-declared authorities as its own, and now is pushing itself more aggressively into internal Ukrainian affairs. It is patently clear that the objective is to “score” Ukraine for the western team, thus denying it to Russia. …

Ukraine was an economic basket case before the western backed coup and it is in much worse shape today thanks in part to the US/NATO sock puppet government in Kiev using their military to keep ethnic Russian enclaves in the eastern part of the country from establishing their independence.

So, one has to ask: What do the people of Ukraine want? This is a question that a free and independent media in the US and Europe should be asking and investigating. It’s not happening. What do the people in western Ukraine want? Do they all want to be part of Europe or is what they really want is to live in peace and have a chance to prosper?  We don’t know because no one is doing any real reporting. What do the people of eastern Ukraine want? Well, if we are to believe what the propaganda machines are telling us, the ethnic Russians are being manipulated by Russia (Putin), the are separatist at best and more likely  terrorist who want al of the Ukraine or at least eastern Ukraine to be part of Russia. NATO and the media have claimed several times that Russian military has invaded Ukraine and there are four regiments of Russian troops fighting along side of the rebels. However, they never provide any verifiable proof.

Yesterday, I came across a short article by Paul Craig Roberts at Lew Rockwell.Com. The article contained a link to another article with a video of a news conference given by Alexander Zakharchenko, Chairman of the Council of Ministers of the Donetsk National Republic, held with media. Present are Russian and Western press. The video has English subtitles. I was worried that maybe Pravda or someone had doctored the subtitles. So, I asked Norma Brown to review the accuracy of the English translation. She reported back that the subtitles are indeed well done.

I hope you can find the time to watch this video. It’s 30 minutes long; but Mr. Zakharchenko, in my opinion, is very candid and forthright in his response to the medias questions. He does a marvelous job handling the clearly biased questions of the western media. Let me paraphrase some examples.

When asked about the presence of Russian troops, he said: _ Of course we wish we had the help of Russian troops. We do have some Russian volunteers fight with us. We. also, have some French volunteers and volunteers from several other countries fighting with us. But, if all those Russian regiments were in fact here, as you in the media claim, we wouldn’t be fighting in the towns of Donetsk. We would be fighting in Kiev. _

When asked if Donetsk would be willing to accept a federation of semi-autonomous states instead to independence,  Zakharchenko responded: _  It’s too late for the federation option. A federation is what we originally asked for. Later we asked permission to have a referendum. Now, we just want to be left alone. We have good agriculture here. We have coal, shale gas, and our metallurgical plants. Those things are what the government in Kiev wants. That’s what all previous governments in Kiev wanted. We are not attacking the western Ukraine. It is Kiev that send its military to bomb and shell our cities. Mothers, do not send your sons here to kill us, because we will fight back and we will kill them. You do not want that and neither do we. We just want to be left alone. _

There is much more worth listening to (reading).

 

Update:

I see that Fox News is reporting this morning on peace negotiations taking place in Minsk  between Russian President Vladimir Putin and his Ukrainian counterpart, Petro Poroshenko. The negotiations involve former Ukrainian President Leonid Kuchma; Russia’s ambassador to Ukraine; an envoy from the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe and representatives of the rebels.

Pro-Russian rebels softened their demand for full independence Monday, saying they would respect Ukraine’s sovereignty in exchange for autonomy — a shift that reflects Moscow’s desire to strike a deal at a new round of peace talks.

Interesting! Peace negotiations held by Putin. What is Obama and NATO doing?

Over the weekend, the European Union leaders agreed to prepare a new round of sanctions that could be enacted in a week, after NATO accused Russia of sending tanks and troops into southeastern Ukraine. A NATO summit in Wales on Thursday is also expected to approve measures designed to counter Russia’s aggressive actions in Ukraine.

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President Barack Obama and the leaders of NATO’s other member countries will attend a summit in Wales that is expected to approve the creation of a high-readiness force to help protect member nations against potential Russian aggression.

“(This) ensures that we have the right forces and the right equipment in the right place at the right time,” NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen said Monday. “Not because NATO wants to attack anyone. But because the dangers and the threats are more present and more visible. And we will do what it takes to defend our allies.”

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President Barack Obama and the leaders of NATO’s other member countries will attend a summit in Wales that is expected to approve the creation of a high-readiness force to help protect member nations against potential Russian aggression.

“(This) ensures that we have the right forces and the right equipment in the right place at the right time,” NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen said Monday. “Not because NATO wants to attack anyone. But because the dangers and the threats are more present and more visible. And we will do what it takes to defend our allies.”

So, who is working on peace and who is working on war? It’s all Russia’s fault, right? If only the media would talk to real people.

Well, that’s what I’m thinking. What are your thoughts?

 

 

 

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5 thoughts on “In the midst of the geopolitical gamesmanship over the Ukraine, does anyone care what the people of Ukraine want?

  1. Myself? I’m turning into an isolationist. Let the rest of the world burn. Even if we could be the worlds cop we are broke. It’s time to retrench and take care of our house first.

    I know. The current wisdom is that isolationism is not practical and will harm us. Perhaps so. But we never intervened in an outside war until 1917 and we did alright. The world was just as messy then as now and we certainly have a much better capability to strike back should someone mistake isolationism for weakness.

    1. I have to say I am right there with you! I have never been an isolationist but at this point in time I am beginning to realize it is time for all these countries to start doing things for themselves and to stop looking to America to bail them out.

  2. Interesting point of view. I agree that the world should/could do more. Having said that, I doubt the world has changed much more this Century than any other. It is/will be survival of the fittest. So let Russia have all of her Countries back. Putin wants them. How about the agreements we made with the Ukraine in getting them to give up their nukes? Obama personally worked them into giving up their conventional weapons.One of the few accomplishments. China wants what it wants. So lets sit back and wait for it all to unfold. Fortunately for us my parents and Uncle were wiling to make tremendous sacrifices as the “Greatest Generation” so I could have one hell of a good life. For our children, not looking so good.
    We were a blessed Nation.

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